WHY IS A CIS MAN GETTING AN AWARD FOR PLAYING A TRANS WOMAN
because that’s what ACTING is you fucking stupid child
Yes, acting is the art of being someone you’re not, but it also would have been so much better for an actual trans woman to play the role from a representation and just plain human decency standpoint, and instead they went for the big name. And it’s okay to be upset about that because it is legitimately upsetting. And calling someone (who happens to be a genderqueer someone, which you could know by spending a whole five seconds looking at their blog) a “fucking stupid child” for being upset about that is COMPLETELY out of line.
I don’t think Poppy is out of line at all, OP is being a fucking stupid child over stupid bullshit and Poppy’s simply calling them out on it. Also, if you didn’t realize if, Poppy himself is gay. Why the fuck does OP being genderqueer matter at all? I don’t see how OP being genderqueer fits into the equation at all. I hardly think that either of their gender identities or sexualities matter when they’re expressing their opinions over who was and who wasn’t selected to play an acting role.
Now, if OP had said something like, “man, Jared Leto wasn’t talented enough to play the role he was given and I really think someone else should have gotten the role, preferably a [insert specific trans gender actor/actress] so they could get more recognition” then they wouldn’t sound like a little whiny bitch because they’d be criticizing Leto’s acting ability and would have the belief that he got the role because of his fame more than his acting ability, which is a debate all it’s own.
But no, OP is incredibly butthutt because a cis gendered man got the role of a trans gendered woman. That’s complete bullshit and they’re being a fucking baby about it, not to mention biased.
Get off your moral fucking high horse.
Oh, my, where to start.
I’m going to skip over the “who said what belongs to what gender identity sexuality” thing because that would take a lot of words and that’s not the most important thing. There
Confession time: I haven’t seen Dallas Buyer’s Club. So I can’t pass judgement on Leto’s performance. That’s not really the issue here, but I’ll get to that in a moment. As an actor I want to say this, though: Having the life experience helps. A lot. So if the casting director had put the effort into finding a trans actress, even if she were significantly less experienced or trained or whatever as Leto, she probably could have given as good a performance or better. Furthermore, there’s this recent article about why the writing of Rayon and Leto’s performance were offensive. There ARE trans* actresses out there. Laverne Cox (Orange is the New Black) and Candis Cayne (Elementary) are two that I happen to know of.
I’m sure there are many more. But none of them are that well-known. Can you name any more than I can without consulting Google? (I’ll admit I cheated to get their names.) So why is that? Probably because there aren’t that many trans roles for trans people! And then that one big trans role pops up, look how that turns out. So now this opportunity for a trans actress to be big and visible has been squandered on straight cis white guy who was already big and visible.
And that’s the REAL problem with this situation. Because the actors in these big movies are MUCH bigger than just the role they play in the movie. There was this little Academy Awards thing that happened recently that demonstrates that very nicely. Like, what did Leto even talk about in his acceptance speech? Like, one sentence about people with AIDS and maybe trans* people? If it were a trans woman standing up there, I would give it pretty good odds that she would have talked about trans* issues a bit more. Furthermore, she would have been an example of a real-live, successful, respected trans* person in the public eye, which is something the world sorely needs. It would have been SO EASY to do, and the director didn’t even consider it as an option.
I haven’t seen Dallas Buyer’s Club either and frankly, I don’t want to. Why? Because the genre doesn’t interest me enough to see it. So I can’t give any criticism to his performance either. Regardless of whether I’ve seen it or not, he did well enough that he received an Oscar for his work which should mean something. Life experience or not, people believed Leto portrayed his role so well, he deserved one of the highest achievements for acting.
Now, I don’t know much about the auditioning process for Hollywood films, but I’m sure there were other people who auditioned for the part as well (and I’m sure some of them were genuinely transgender) and this brings us to debate on whether Leto simply outperformed them or that he was picked because he’s more well-known. I’m going to go ahead and take the optimistic route and say it was because Leto gave a better performance.
I’m not being biased toward Leto either because as far as I know, I’ve never even seen one of his films. I know nothing about him or his acting abilities, but I like to think Hollywood isn’t as polluted as people like to think and that they always choose the same people for superficial reasons. Again, this is me leaning more on my idealism and optimism, so I could be completely wrong and maybe Leto was simply chosen for his fame. However, we’ll never really know the true answer to that question so I think the point of debating such a thing is moot.
As for life experience, I agree. It can help an actor, but it is not necessarily a game changer in my opinion. Acting is about becoming someone else and filling the role your given and I think a brilliant actor could easily do that without the life experience.
But honestly, none of that stuff really concerns me. Whether Leto was simply given the role or whether he earned it doesn’t matter to me.
What does matter is that OP - Tomi, as I’ve come to know them - displayed really childish behavior and continues to do so. As far as I can tell, the only reason that they were upset about what happened is because Leto is cis gendered and their being upset had nothing to do with what you’re trying to debate. That’s incredibly superficial and quite a disgusting attitude to have, in my opinion.
My beef isn’t with you Kevin - may I call you Kevin? As a matter of fact, I think you seem like a nice, intelligent person and raise good points, but I still stand by what I’ve already said and only hope I’m not too idealistic for my own good. Either way, I suppose I directed my irritation at you when I shouldn’t have and I apologize for that. It was really meant for Tomi because, well, from what I can tell, they’re very negative and have a gross personality and gross views.
Oh, and to answer your question, I don’t know any trans actors or actresses.
I’m confused: versus a significant contribution to the systematic oppression of a group of people and what matters is that someone in this group, who you have never met, was upset by this and made a post you don’t like? And then, of course, you and your friend see it as appropriate to make aggressive comments, in public, specifically singling out and targeting this person for asking a perfectly legitimate question. Since you seem to be in favor of calling people out on stuff, I really feel like I should call you out for that.
And again: the problem isn’t Leto’s quality of performance. Movies don’t exist in a vacuum. The problem is that he and all the other people involved in making Dallas Buyer’s club are trying to represent a group of people they don’t belong to, when the option existed and was readily available to let them speak for themselves. (And yes, the director explicitly chose not to cast a trans actress). And that’s wrong.
If you’re still hung up on the quality of Leto’s performance, read the article I linked to before.